If marriage is a “holy institution” and has no basis in a civil union aside from religion…
And the government (of the USA, anyway) is separate from religion…
..why then is marriage made legal/illegal by government rulings? Shouldn’t governments only set up laws about civil unions and let each individual church make their own rules about who can and can’t get married in that church?
Honestly, you fundamentalist homo-hating Christians should just shut the hell up before we figure out more about you.
Hey, how about this one? Isn’t a greater threat to marriage (pft, as if homosexual marriage even is one) the happily-together long-term non-married homosexual relationships out there? If “they” don’t need to get married to be happy, why should Bobby & Sally?
the crazy thing about fundies is that they think Church and state should not be separate. Which is ironic since the book they bang say no religion in gov’t.
Personally, I don’t think that I will ever get “legally” married again, but I am not adverse to the idea. To me, a marraige is a cultural construct necessary to provide a nurturing environment for child-rearing. If a couple loves each other, want to live with each other, and do not want to share their love with others, they should be able to do so without a contract, sworn before a judge.
They should be able to declare their love, and then move on. But American society, controlled as it is by a religious and moral MINORITY, has decided to encourage defacto conversions to their codes by providing marraige incentives.
Sadly, the Freedoms enumerated to All Men (inclusive) in US constitution’s Bill of Rights are vague enough to be “interpreted” by the Courts (capitals intended).
The checks and balances set up in that document have been perverted by the US Judiciary to the points where the courts now make laws, rather than enforce them. One such “law” was an explicit statement that the church and state should be seperated. Another such “law” had severed private relations into “good” and “bad”, something the founders never intended.
It’s sad sometimes to be an American. To be reminded that a group so desperate to be free of the church of England set up a system to preserve that freedom, but their descendants have forgotten what it means to be not free.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
You’ll note nothing in there about the “seperation of church and state”, “the public’s right to know”, or “sex is bad”, “gays are bad”, and (my personal favorite) “get married or die in poverty”.
Thank you, “Supreme” court.
Sometimes I think your three eastern-most provinces made the right choice.